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Microsoft's Copilot and the Future of AI in your Job
Imagine a future where AI streamlines your workflow, cuts down your work hours, and even makes your meetings more efficient. Bold as it may sound, that future is closer than you think, thanks to Microsoft's Copilot. On today's episode, we dive into the cutting-edge world of Copilot, its integration with the Microsoft suite, and the anticipated launch of Copilot Studio, a premium version aimed at revolutionizing business operations.
Struggling to make sense of a large dataset? Wish you could generate podcast content with a click? Let us introduce you to the concept of Generative Pretrained Transformers (GPTs). We discuss how custom GPTs, developed through Microsoft Copilot, can transform data analysis, decision-making, and even content creation. Also, keep an ear out for some exciting insights on the integration of Chat GPT and Copilot Studio and what it holds for the future.
As we explore these AI-driven advancements, we also ponder on the implications for the workforce and the resistance AI technology might potentially face. However, the promise of shorter work weeks and more efficient workdays through effective AI utilization is truly remarkable. Lastly, we touch upon the application of AI chatbots and GPTs in providing informed decisions and the possible benefits of integrating Microsoft Copilot into websites and services. Join us on this journey into the future of AI in the workplace and stay tuned for some thought-provoking discussions and announcements.
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We got a really interesting discussion to talk about tonight. Right, we do, we do so Microsoft. We've talked about there. We've talked a lot about them actually for the past couple of months, you know because and there's there's a number of reasons to do that, you know, I mean, but one of the things that we talked about with them is their integration with open AI right and how their investment has helped grow chat GPT. Now, a couple of weeks ago or really it was last week, wasn't it that we talked about their concerns with AI getting going crazy within their internal work sphere and they shut down chat GPT, but it ended up not being a chat GPT issue by any means. But, yes, they've talked about a number of things with AI integration, including making it Microsoft Copilot right now. Right, which? Remind people, if you could, what are the main services that that offers right now? If you have a Windows 11, yeah, if you have Windows 11, download, what do you have available to you?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So, and I guess one thing to note too is that Copilot is also now just the rebranding of what being AI was right or or or, or being chat or whatever. Microsoft has kind of rebranded all of that and moved it into Copilot. So that way it's nice, one nice cohesive deal. But essentially Copilot, especially with Windows 11, is supposed to be integrated into the search, so then you can get suggestions from there and then you can also just directly access the AI, the Copilot AI, and you're able to kind of, you know, do a lot of the same things that you could do with any of the other AI chat bots, like Bard and chat, gpt and stuff.
Speaker 2:Um, they've also started the process of trying to integrate Copilot into all of the Microsoft suite.
Speaker 2:So, for instance, of course, if you're going to say you need help writing an essay or something like that, it can help you generate ideas and be able to help you kind of help structure maybe your essay or something similar to that.
Speaker 2:Same thing with PowerPoint Excel you can use it for really just checking out the data or being able to, like create observations off of that data and then maybe even help you format that data in a way that it looks a little bit more visually pleasing. It takes away some of the tasks, some of those tasks for you, and then, of course, going into the other places and stuff, and Microsoft recently announced the integration into Teams as well, so that'll be really a really big one as well. As in for Outlook is another thing that they're trying to help with, like, especially because in Outlook they're getting, they want to make it to where you'll be able to use the Copilot AI to help you create, say, emails that you're trying to email someone about, and even summarizing emails for people, or that your coworkers send you, and stuff like that. So, yeah, copilot is something that Microsoft is really jumping into to try to make a really cohesive experience, ai driven experience that they're trying to go for.
Speaker 1:Sure, I think the email integration is interesting. Just from a professional review, I think the people that would use that already write good emails themselves, and then the other people that need it are more of the mindset of oh, I'm not down working with AI, sweep in generalization, but just what I've experienced and witnessed as well. But, with that said, it is a great option and, I think, very effective as well. With the Teams integration that we've talked about, if I remember right, it would help with things like if you're on a Teams meeting, it would take notes for you and transcribe the whole thing, but then use that transcription to make the notes that you need to have and you need to see for your job. And one of the other big things with Outlook and Microsoft Copilot that excites me is that it would go through your email and say this is what is due today, this is what it's due tomorrow, and it helps make your plans and just helps you stay on top of your job because of that.
Speaker 2:Yep exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think those two things are the biggest, most tangible and beneficial, because you have a lot of people and not really to make this about the focus of this episode but you have a lot of people that are against using AI like this.
Speaker 1:Right, they think it's very simple and just unstructured, unnecessary. For example, I actually saw a Facebook post just the other day of someone who turned a song into something negative and just shared it. To be like this is how crazy and unnecessary this technology is, and I was like it's a very light level and unnecessary way to use this tech, right? Yep, there's so many greater things. But for it to be more integrated and simple, but integrated enough to where? Hey, you know what I'm using this to not just get everything I need out of this 30-minute group teams meeting, if you will, or to sift through the 28 emails I got overnight to know what we're doing today and what I need to do. It's very effective stuff. I think it's very good. Mm-hmm, yeah, so what we're talking about today is not just that. We're talking about the advancement and next level of that that will be coming early next year, right? Mm-hmm? Yeah, it is Microsoft Co-Pilot Studio. It is not included, it is not free, it will be $30 a month.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:And again, not terrible. But when you add all of these things together, which I wonder and we can talk about this too would it include a version of ChatGPT, if you paid that?
Speaker 2:I mean, I mean, co-pilot is going off of the ChatGPT for language model. So technically, yes, okay, but it's not. It's if you pay for Co-Pilot, right, you are not going to get access to OpenAI's ChatGPT like specific ChatGPT thing. Yes, it would be, of course, microsoft's tailored version of the ChatGPT language model, like version 4 or whatever, yeah, of the language module model.
Speaker 1:Which. This is an interesting discussion that Dennis and I have had, more so behind the scenes, but it's also been based on stuff of me doing research to see how we can grow our platform, and AI services are included in that. It's interesting because and I do think this is a separate discussion we can have further at another time you hear a lot of people talk about oh, americans pay so much because they spend so much on the platform, much because they spend, or for monthly subscriptions, because they spend money on Netflix and Disney Plus and all that kind of stuff, right, right, right. Well, you can quickly rack up that level of subscription with AI services. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:And I do wonder again, before we dive fuller into this topic, to let you guys know what this next level of Co-Pilot would be, what all of the services are. It's going to be interesting. We think you're going to love it, but I do want to know. It seems like a lot of this stuff is overpriced, man, and wondering if it will come down in price. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's a great question. I think the language models that we have currently, yes, will come down in price, but I don't think that.
Speaker 1:New or premium services would come down, because the thing about it is chat GPT 20 bucks a month, what we're talking about here, with the Co-Pilot Plus, right.
Speaker 2:It's the Co-Pilot. It's M365 Co-Pilot, if I'm not mistaken. It's the way that they're marketing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 30 bucks. We've researched this as well. Ai services available in the hosting service that we use for the podcast 20 bucks a month. Special stuff on Linktree where we link everything that you want to listen to, watch to those AI services I think were $18 a month. And it's not even just a guy With that. It integrates normal working stuff as well. But still that racks up quick and that is the best with the podcast. If you look at other people that are trying to grow, as say, an influencer on social media or even just grow their small business in any way, man that can rack up quick for a lot of money coming out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it can, and that's kind of where some consumers have to be a little bit more picky and a little bit more scared than what they could be. But I mean, the thing is also like these, these generative AI models are relatively versatile, so you can use them in so many different manners than what you could do with, you know, your regular, like Netflix subscription or something similar to that.
Speaker 1:Oh, I doubt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. No, it's very much beneficial. I'm on board. You're also talking to a guy who pays for Amazon Prime but splits that with his family and then you gets to stream through that. I do pay for Disney Plus, I pay for YouTube TV, but I've split that with multiple people too, so it's a lot more manageable based on how I approach it. But but yeah, you know, a lot of other people have Netflix and they have these other ones that I don't use, like Hulu, for example, right, those kind of things and that stuff, and you're not able to split with other people necessarily, and that price racks up quick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's true. I mean, I know, I know my family, we, we kind of pick and choose the services that we use, the streaming services that we use, and then you know and who pays what, and then that way we can all share the account. It's just yeah, we can all share the account. It's just you know who pays for. It is a little different. We kind of try to trade off.
Speaker 1:Oh sure, sure, Sure, I definitely get that. You know one. This is a side story and we'll jump in the topic here. So I did a trial for YouTube premium. You'll be really happy because, hey, look at you. And since been promoting that for a while, I have, and I'm a fan of it.
Speaker 2:If you don't like ads.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:It's a way to go. You'll never notice how many at you to how many ads that YouTube has, until you pay for.
Speaker 1:Right, you know it's kind of weird. So I've listened to a couple of Vodcasts, if you will, and it's weird because Me having to go through it and then I listened for six minutes and then there's an ad and I'm like, okay, skip that, I can get back to it now. It made me more integrated in a weird way, rather than just listening to it straight through with no ads trying to strike me. It's very weird. That is yeah, um, but with that said, I was getting very tired because YouTube has picked up the amount of ads they were putting in there and the amount of them that you can't skip. It was getting so annoying. So, anyway, I did trial on it and what's interesting about how they did it? It was X price, right, but if you go to set it up on your iPhone, it would charge you an additional $6 more a month If you did through your iPhone. Yes, oh, I know why. Why?
Speaker 2:Uh, it's the Apple tax. It's because your Apple takes a certain percentage off of the subscription if it's done directly in the um, if it's done directly in the store.
Speaker 1:It's just so dumb man, you know. And it's not the only thing they do it on either as exorbitant. If you go into um, like if I were to try and boost a post that we made on our podcast Tiktok page, it would charge me the ad amount and then another like three and a half dollars just because I did it through Apple. But if I did on desktop it wouldn't do that I like. It's so dumb, you know.
Speaker 2:It's because it's an app You're doing it through the app that all app transactions have to go through the Apple store or the app store. Yeah, and so when those transactions are going through, apple's taken their little cut and boom.
Speaker 1:Yes, absolutely. Now, it's just weird. I don't know, I'm not. It's not a little cut, that's the thing. You know what I mean. It's not a 99 cent fee or a buck 99 fee, it's it's simpler, it's expensive. Yeah yeah. It's just not something I'm a fan of and, thankfully, have found ways to work around. I hope you guys do too. But look, we're already flying through this episode.
Speaker 2:I say we just roll into the topic, man you know what I'm saying yeah, let's do it, man, let's do it.
Speaker 1:Let's get into it. Yeah, so I'm seeing here yeah, microsoft Copilot Studio is one.
Speaker 2:I'm seeing the title of this yes, yes, exactly, it's a it's Copilot Studio.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:That is correct.
Speaker 1:So let's talk about the features that you'll get that aren't included already in Copilot, right yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah Of course, one thing it says here is low code customization tool. It allows users to customize Copilot from Microsoft 365, which is your whole office suite you would have and build standalone Copilates combining custom GPTs, generative AI plugins and manual topics. So, to expound upon that, what does that mean? What does that look like? Because it's exciting. It sounds like you'd be able to create a chat GPT, but it would, or, I'm sorry, some form of that that would directly benefit you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I mean, that's essentially it. Right, you're creating one based off of your dataset, right? It's similar to Google was announced this a while back where they essentially would create a, say, you had a note, a note tab, right, you have all your notes in there, and then they would integrate one of their. They would integrate essentially like Bard, I think at the time is when they were announcing it into that dataset, right, your notes, and then you could search and ask it anything about all of that. It's essentially what these GPTs are doing in Copilot is creating.
Speaker 2:So if you have a data set of X, y and Z, you can now that is this GPT's training data and so it's getting to learn, it's pulling in all this information and now you can just chat with it and say, hey, going off of these trends, we'll use, like some, like, if it's a data data for like how much money the business is making over like a five year span or whatever, like that, you now have a GPT that you created off of, based off of that data, and you can deploy it to. Then you can say, you can ask and say, hey, what do I get? Or you know, what is your prediction in the next five years, based off of the data set that we have or whatever like that, and it'll go through and say like, oh yeah, well, based off of this, we've got this, this and this. These are the trends that would most likely do this and this and this, and you should move your business and this and this and this, because it has all of that new data set right, and so it can just regurgitate all that information. It takes away a lot of that.
Speaker 2:If you use JAPE, chat, gpt a lot, or even co pilot in general, there's a lot of times where you have to just inject a lot of data into it Before it figures that out where this is. You can build it directly into that data set and it figures all of that stuff for you. There's no, it takes away, it's less manual process, right, and you get to create a ton of these that are all specific. You could probably even do it off of, like email chains or something similar to that.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, so. So let's use, um, yeah, which we expound upon that email stuff that we were talking about, right, but let's use the podcast as an example, right? So let's say, for example, that I had this on this laptop, right? Right, it creates a custom GPT that each week, would stay up to date with, let's say, ai or related type of topics, and then would give us, each week, those topics to choose from and then write the title and the episode description for us. Is that that the type of thing, or an example of something that people would use this technology for for their own, you know, geared toward them, obviously?
Speaker 2:So I'll say this currently in in um, co-pilot studios uh, current iteration it's more for corporations, right? So this would be more enterprise, I think. Even if you wanted to try to get access to co-pilot uh studio current, currently in its current form you um have to have a work account, right, a work Microsoft account. So, essentially, this is mainly going to be for your, for your, um, for your, for your work stuff, right, more enterprise version of it.
Speaker 2:Now, that being said, openai launched something called a GPT's, which is essentially the same concept as co-pilot studio, but it's more customer facing, and so, in that scenario, yes, you could create a GPT that's based on that data set and it will do all of the things that you want it to do, or at least it'll. You can ask it to do all those things, because now it has that information to do that. You can say, hey, it's the next time for us to do another episode and this is what we want to talk about. What should you know? What's? Generate something to do, generate what we should talk about, and um, you know bullet points on how we should do it, or whatever like okay, cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Okay. So that is what the cool power of this um is and what why it's so impressive, right, Especially, you know, of course, as I said before, a lot of this is kind of piggybacking off of what OpenAI is already doing. Especially since Microsoft has a sizable investment into them, it makes a lot of sense that they're going to be able to utilize a lot of their stuff automatically into their, into Microsoft's own stuff. But, um, but yeah, that's, that's kind of one of the biggest things that this affords people in, affords enterprises. Um, you know, I think right now Microsoft is going to focus on the enterprise side, but I wouldn't be surprised that this moves over to the consumer side soon.
Speaker 1:Sure, so definitely more business related stuff, right, correct, gotcha? Okay, so let's take a look here then. Um, yeah, about more of this kind of stuff, so I'll go through these again. These advanced features Um well, yeah, we'll come to that in just a second, but, um, some of the benefits and applications that were mentioned about this uh improves your efficiency, aids in making informed decisions work related, of course, and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:Again, I think it kind of ties back to something I was mentioning as well, but just being able to sift through a large amount of details, whether it's in a team's meeting or you know, maybe you work at a place where you get dozens of emails every couple of hours, right and to be able to sift through that information and help you make informed decisions that you need based off of. Well, you know, two weeks ago you did this and here's where we're at now and you're being asked for this blah blah blah.
Speaker 1:Um, let's see personalized experiences. Like we've mentioned, streamlined workflows and automating tasks, um, so role specific customization, uh, can be tailored for specific organizational roles like IT support or sales teams with capabilities like collaborative commenting and graphical multi-authoring. Um, what would that look like for you, in your opinion? I guess is what I'm trying to say If it were um like IT support, for example? Um, yeah, what would those specific organizational roles be able to like? How would this benefit that? I think that's a um yeah, sorry, go ahead. It sounds like that's kind of an open-ended answer, really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean for the most part. I mean, uh, like I can see this, I can see this, um, as something that you could use for service desk stuff, right, um, how this could help for efficiency is, say, you inject or you create a co-pilot based off of the data of the tickets that you get, right, the, and you can ask it and say okay, based off of the tickets that we have, what is the most common ticket that we have? Or whatever like that.
Speaker 2:And how long does it take for this issue to get resolved? So, like, what's the most common issue and how long does it take to resolve? And it'll just turn that out. And then you can ask it okay, so what are some things for us to make this more efficient? And at that point, right, it can just say, okay, well, we could do this, this and this. And then you could probably even make it go even further by creating another co-pilot bot that is also tied to the ticketing system.
Speaker 2:But you can now use that as a first level of defense when it comes to customers, to the customer facing right. So, instead of being able to chat to a person, they can chat to a chat bot and say, like, hey, bloop, here's an article or here is a fix that was used in ticket X, y and Z that had this type of resolution Use this to fix your issue, or whatever like that. So you know, there's a lot that can be done there. You could also use it in more of an asset management capacity when it comes to IT, saying, hey, we've got this many units, what is our burn rate? That you're that we're seeing in, you know, this skew of products or whatever like that like how fast does it go out? Are we getting these assets back? All that good stuff, so I can see. I can see it helping workflows. I think it's just. I think it's the willingness of people giving it access to that data.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which I don't know. Maybe that's something you can expound upon too, because I do want your opinion. But what really are the ways that say an average person, say maybe even a less tech-oriented person, right, Like somebody who doesn't have a background knowledge of AI like I do, who's in marketing, for example? Or it doesn't even have to be that specific, but just something at that level what would? How would co-pilot studio benefit, kind of the average computer worker, if you will, Because I and we were touching this a little bit by, just think diving into it a little bit more might help, you know.
Speaker 2:No, no, I get that.
Speaker 2:Let's see. If I was an average user to use co-pilot to build an AI off of co-pilot, I could see it very much a good way to integrate it into, since it is going to eventually be integrated into the O365 suite, of course you can have it there, but I think one of the best ways is easily, if you're a big note taker right, in all of your meetings and all of the things that you learn, you could then train it off of, say, like a one note. Right, you have all your information in that one note. You could train, you could create a co-pilot studio or a co-pilot GPT deal that is just on your note and then you can say, hey, I'm getting ready for a presentation, can you help me write a presentation based off of the notes that I have here, gotcha, and it just pops that out. You can even say, hey, you know, looking at my calendar, I have these presentations. Can you go ahead and start the process of writing out a presentation or creating a presentation for me for each of these meetings?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and then you, as that person, can just run into that meeting having all your stuff ready to go for you, sure, I think that's a great couple of examples, because you know one thing that I have done with chat GPT is used, that kind of a feature for you know. Anyway, that would benefit me really. But the thing about it is, especially with recent updates and just their preferences and all that, it can only really stay in touch with all of that information. Then even back to the beginning of the thread that you're on, just in case you go back to that thread but reset and you know I have to log in, log out, it doesn't maintain all of the data. And so to have Microsoft integrate this in a way where it would stay up to date and maintain all of that data from the second you implement it, those are great points, man. Just scheduling, approaching this project this way, even help writing it, you know, communication, all that kind of stuff, those are great examples. I think this is really good.
Speaker 2:Yep, yeah, so it's so exciting about this.
Speaker 1:Well, it is right, because the idea is it would be a direct integration into improving your productivity. Yes, Correct. Which is great, and I think I wanted to mention this as a side as well. Do you think that this albeit Microsoft freaked out and thought chat GPT was taken over for a second and they shut down everything? Do you think it's the development of co-pilot studio that was their concern or that caused them to have concerns while they were building it out?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I could see that, because I mean for this news to come out just a week later. It's interesting, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, I can see that because, if you think about it right, and we shouldn't be too surprised that they've created this type of possibility, this integration, this system, right, the co-pilot studio. It's not all that surprising because we talked about this. You know, it's been months now at this point where chat GPT gosh darn, chat GPT4 already showed some very interesting behaviors, right, where one of them was the scenario that we talked about, which was they gave chat GPT4 a task to get into a website and buy whatever Right, right and that website sorry, I vaguely remember this yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And so, like you know, say that website had a capture or not a capture, but yeah, no, a recaptured deal which you know says like are you a human right? And chat GPT4. Understood. Well, I wouldn't be able to do this, but let me get an actual person to do this, right.
Speaker 1:It made a bot, didn't it Correct?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it made a bot to start the process of, you know, being able to fill out this recapture deal, yes, so even it just being able to do that kind of was a hint that this now is possible, right. So it's a bit like a co-pilot studio that's based off of whatever, and even some of the projects that we've seen that have been based off of the APIs of chat GPT have been pretty interesting, right. I think we also talked about it's been months now too which was like auto GPT, which was more of an open source project based off of chat GPT. That allowed it to self prompt, right, and I've already saw some of the capabilities there. But in that particular scenario, they did it to where it's like I want to order this type of pizza, I want you to. They gave the AI at the time that auto GPT. They gave it the task of ordering this person a pepperoni pizza or something similar to that right.
Speaker 2:And so what it did was what it first understood okay, so here are the things that you need to do to order a pizza. And then it said, well, I can't do that because I'm a person or I'm not a person or whatever like that. So, yeah, when I can't speak. So what it did was it said well, okay, how do I first create, let's create a bot that will order this pizza, and then also let's create a bot that can speak, because we're going to do it over the phone is that, will you know, bypass X, y and Z. And so it creates that. That AI now has a voice and it calls the restaurant, right, and it calls the pizza restaurant and says, hey, I want to order a pepperoni pizza. And that person is like, okay, cool, and then they bam filled it out and then they track it and then they say, hey, your pizza is ready to go, right. So even in those forms, we kind of already saw that power that the GPT already has.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 1:And so this is now just kind of adding to the to that, to that fire which is interesting because, in case people don't remember this, google had their own version of that for since 2017, if I remember right, it was specifically built with that in mind, whereas, you know, chat GPT has been built with dozens and dozens and dozens of things in mind and was able to do that. You know. That's a great point, a great thing to remember too, because you know, I understand those type of concerns that people have before they move forward with this technology, of how that would work. I will say, too, what we've seen is a lot harsher crackdown on buy open AI, on chat GPT, to keep it more and more in check. Yeah, yeah, which has been good for them, and I also partly government pushed as well, I believe. But, yes, so, yeah, it's interesting to watch how this will expand as Microsoft and implements more and more of Copilot Studio and really what kind of uses we could see that weren't broadcast or marketed and might not even be allowed. It will be interesting to see it really will.
Speaker 1:So I wanted to say, or I wanted to ask well, I kind of lost my question. I had written down, to be honest, no, I think. Well, no, the reason is is because you were kind of already answering a lot of it. Yeah, I guess really my biggest thing is do you think Really two things? What would be the big features that you're excited for personally, and do you see this being uptaken by people? Do you see people using this? You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yes, I can see this. I think it'll be a slower adoption than it was with regular old chat GPT. The only reason why I say that is because there's an extra layer there that's harder for people to grasp. That can be harder for people to grasp, not saying that it's super duper easy or super duper hard. I just think that it could be a small barrier there for some people or some individuals.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and as far as that, where are the features that you're looking forward to the most? Have you mentioned?
Speaker 2:them. Yeah, no, I'm trying to think what would be a feature that I I mean, I'm really big on the studio, the co-pilot studio. I think that'll be really good. Also, just a full integration of Outlook with co-pilot Outlook as well as with Windows. I'm not on Windows 11, so I don't get a chance to do that, but I think that would be really, really helpful. But, yeah, I think Outlook would probably be my biggest one, just because I get a ton of emails.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so if I could have an AI that would go through, If I could have co-pilot go through those emails really quickly and say this and this and this and this and I'm getting like bullet points, that'd be really nice.
Speaker 1:I completely agree. I think for me and this is as somebody who used to work in the news, in case you're a newer viewer you probably haven't heard us talk about that for the past two years or so, but I got a lot of emails while I was working there. You know what's interesting about that is based on the experience I had. I bet this has taken up last, if at all, in the news industry.
Speaker 1:This technology, so many people, the pride of being a journalist is overprotected a lot of times because you don't want anything to take away from what it is you do, even if it's AI or computer assisting you. You know what I mean. So it's a common concern that I hear a lot With. That said, it would be extremely beneficial when you're someone like a producer, like I was where you have to have help with oh, this is coming in and here's how we could add it to the newscast. You know those type of a thing and there's so much possibility you could make of that. Here's how we would make a 20-second anchor read. Here's why it would make a good case to put a reporter on this, those type of things right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:I know a specific example, but the reason I say this is because I would completely agree with you and I think what I'm living in my current job now, which is not news related at all, is more marketing. But just having this AI that would assess and help you plan out your days, that's extremely, and even at a deeper level than what we already talked about. I think that's extremely exciting. Oh, yeah, and I would say too yeah, I think it's, I would take it up. I see the reaction to it not being as great as what they would hope for, but that's because of the experience that I've had professionally, which comes from what I was just saying, and I know too, with a lot of current jobs. You know they ban so many services technology, software services because this exposition can't have access to that while they're doing their thing right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But you could. But rather than making that available, they just ban it for the whole organization, right Like? I've seen those kinds of things. It just makes me interested to see how that will play out. But with all that said being that, it is Microsoft, it will be picked up. You know what I mean. Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:And so we talked about this too the fact that it would be 30 bucks a month, and it makes me wonder if they're going to have I bet they will, because they're Microsoft Business plans for that right oh yeah, well, I mean, that's why Studio currently in its current form, is a business-only venture, sure because they're allowing the businesses to pay for several people to use it, rather than you have to go in and buy it personally and put on your work credit card or what have you. Those type of things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly yeah exactly.
Speaker 1:So I do raise those concerns, not because I have them. I'm very much excited for this technology and just to continue to learn and you did a great job helping lay this out as well which is to learn and understand what those services could be and benefit each and every worker. You know what I mean, really, if you look at this and I just want to say this and I'll ask you if you have any additional thoughts as well but you see this and this is what people should be excited about when it comes to artificial intelligence. It's not what people get so concerned about of, oh, it's going to steal my job, and we talked about this a couple of weeks ago and it is a concern given, whatever you know, given the specific industry that we might be talking about. I get that, but this type of integration is what people should be excited about when it comes to AI and how they would benefit us to be more productive, less stressed, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, exactly, and I think that's kind of one of the biggest things that we really want in general, with these new AIs and as they continue to evolve and grow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I completely agree, man. Yeah, that is something that you hope to see more and more. It does make me wonder, unfortunately, with ever since the Industrial Revolution in this country. It makes me wonder if they're just gonna ask you to do more work because you are being more productive, or if it opens up the door to more PTO or even four-day work weeks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true. I mean I will say, you know, america is probably one of the few countries where we are so obsessed with like we have just a high and a very efficient workforce, and every other, a lot of other countries around the world, just do not have that.
Speaker 1:Right, that's their concern anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so it does, or sorry? Go ahead.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean you just you look at countries in Europe that give a whole summer off, you know, but they still do good. Yeah, they still do enough economically that they need to do to be successful countries, first world countries, you know, mm-hmm. So it's all perspective, it's all alignment. I'm not saying by any means that people who do plumbing could take three months off, you know. I mean, we wouldn't want that. That would hurt us a lot, you know. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I think situationally I would be a proponent for four-day work weeks to pay on what that looks like, you know.
Speaker 2:Or even just short. Yeah, I would be too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or even just short and work days. You know what I mean. If you can get all of your work done efficiently, effectively, in a higher quality than you ever could before, it's kind of like man, why not? Why not get it done in six hours rather than eight, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Now saying I do that, I'm just saying you know, if it were institutionally supported, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 2:No, of course. No, I'm not, we're not saying that at all, but yeah yeah for sure.
Speaker 1:So, look, I think we had a great discussion on this. I'm glad we dove into it. We had a lot to dive through and I think we did a great job. I'm always glad that when I have the questions, dennis and I can always answer. I very much appreciate it.
Speaker 2:So Try my best.
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