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The Enigma of Faster-Than-Light Travel: A Cosmic Adventure
What if we could bend the rules of physics to our whim and zip across galaxies at the speed of thought? Buckle up for an adrenaline-fueled jaunt through the cosmos as we tackle the tantalizing puzzle of faster-than-light (FTL) travel! We kick things off with a deep dive into the realm of FTL, an intricate world that straddles the line between scientific possibility and the realm of dreams. Amidst the theoretical physics, we manage to find time for a lighthearted chat about our favorite sci-fi shows. Come join the fun and let us know your favorites!
Dare to journey deeper into the cosmos as we examine the groundbreaking work of physicist Miguel Alcubierre. His revolutionary theory of relativity might just hold the key to breaking the cosmic speed barrier. We then shift gears to the mystifying world of quantum mechanics, time travel, and a tantalizing teaser from a figure who claims to be from the future. Are his predictions about 2023 and beyond accurate, or is it all just an elaborate hoax? Stay tuned to find out!
In the final stretch, we take a hard look at the paradoxes that FTL travel presents. These aren't your everyday conundrums, but mind-bending enigmas that challenge our understanding of causality and the flow of time. To demonstrate, we examine a hypothetical scenario of a space station, an impending explosion, and a spaceship trying to outrun a disaster. We guarantee by the end of this cosmic ride, your perspective on space, time, and travel will be profoundly changed. So, sit back, strap in, and prepare for a voyage unlike any other!
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And something very important Can you travel? Can you travel Faster than speed of light? Aka, what AKA was Star Trek lying to us, bro? You know who knows? While we intro this Chat, leave us what your thoughts are in the comments. Did Star Trek? Did Star Trek?
Speaker 2:get it wrong?
Speaker 1:Did Star Trek get it wrong bro?
Speaker 2:Yeah, man.
Speaker 1:So actually no, tell us what your favorite science fiction like show is. You know, you got Battlestar Galactica. You know, you got your, you got some.
Speaker 2:Firefly in there, man.
Speaker 1:Firefly, you got. Your Andromeda, bro, mm-hmm, great show you got your. Star Trek.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got your Stargate.
Speaker 1:Dude, you do, thank you, thank you, thank you. That was the other one. You have your Star Wars. You do have some Star Wars, although one can argue that that's just wizards in space.
Speaker 2:That is very true. I mean, it's just space, space, space, magic.
Speaker 1:There's no, I'm literally OK, let's, we gotta get it out there, bro. I've watched episode one and two, but not yet three of Ahsoka, right, Mm-hmm? The Arch-nemesis in the show is a witch. Witch. Proves that all the rest of them gotta be wizards, bro.
Speaker 2:No man, no man. You know what is good technology, but magic you know I don't know man, it's just real good technology that they got. It's so advanced that it just looks like that go magic.
Speaker 1:So you're telling me Darth Vader had some tech when he was going like yeah, man, it's all in the gloves, yeah. It could be all in the gloves actually. All in the gloves, bro, I don't know. Anyway, chat less know what your favorite science fiction star-themed show is in the comments. But yeah, man, it drove us a little bit to what we're going to be talking about in this episode. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, it was something, you know, as I was doing my doom scroll through not TikTok, actually, but YouTube. I love to go down the rabbit hole, especially when I'm on long road trips, but it was something that I came across which was FTL faster than my travel, right, and it was talking about the possibilities of if that's even a thing, or, and if it is, you know, what are the effects that could happen, right, and one of the things that we're going to. You know, that's one of the things that we're going to really kind of dive into. We're not going to get super deep, because I am not a physicist. I've only watched a few videos talking about some of this stuff, but what was really interesting about it is just kind of talking about some of the thought process on why it may not even be a possibility, and so I found that to be really, really amazing. You know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, it's really so. I just want you guys to relax, recline, put your thinking caps on, pay close attention, because this one's going to take a lot of analysis to understand why this potentially would not work right. Or even using Albert Einstein's theory of relativity bro, Theory of relativity, not of A-relativity.
Speaker 2:Of a relativity Theory of relativity.
Speaker 1:dude, that's a theory of a dead man cover band.
Speaker 2:That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 1:Theory of a dead man cover band. And they're all brothers Theory of relativity Theory of relativity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so yeah, we're going to talk about this. Like I said, put your thinking caps on and let us know what you think about it in the comments chat. Of course, we want to let you know, before we get into this intro, the top three biggest ways you can support this show, right? Mm-hmm, we're on a day and early man, All right. Number one we're going to talk about there it is oh man, Okay. So follow us on Facebook, follow us on YouTube. We live stream every Thursday. If you're listening to this on audio, we invite people to jump in the comments section in real time and let us know what they think about what we're talking about. So just look up this podcast title on Facebook, on YouTube, and come in and say what's up, what's that? That's one of your first comments. What's up? So I got the juice bag, bro, and I know that I knew this show. They're like what's wrong with John? This is OG John, right there, bro.
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Speaker 2:You know, I'm Denison.
Speaker 1:This is the catch up, All right guys? Yeah, let's go ahead and jump into this topic. So, really, when Denison brought this idea up to me, I was thinking about it, and it does make sense that there would be issues like okay, so light has a speed, right, why is it not faster? Because you know it can travel. This is what made me think right, so light can travel through anything, right Through, well, not anything. Obviously, it has its blocks, but it can travel through space and time, which in which there is no friction there is nothing natural that slows anything down right.
Speaker 1:Only on plants does light get dispersed and reduced, or what happened? Right yeah exactly yeah.
Speaker 2:When light is passing through different mediums, it can be a little bit slower or faster. That's the reason why light travels slower and like water or something like that, as opposed to the vacuum of space.
Speaker 1:Right. So, with that said, it would make sense that nothing inherently could go faster than light, right? Because clearly I mean you'd have to do some rewriting of physics to make that happen, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's because of Albert Einstein's theory of relativity. See, I almost did it too. Those dad gum relatives, man, they just keep on coming in.
Speaker 2:But his theory of essentially how the universe works and how a lot of things kind of coalesce, at least to the knowledge that we have so far of the universe, states that the speed of light is the universal constant.
Speaker 2:It is the rate at which the universe I think it is Well, I think technically the universe expands a little bit faster than the speed of light. But essentially, like that right the stars, I mean, if you really think about it, you can think of it as like the interesting fact that the light from the sun takes eight minutes to get to earth, right For us, for our eyeballs to see it, it takes eight minutes, right, so one that just shows how big space is. But also think about it like when you turn on the light it feels like it's just instant. Right, Flip the switch, boom, light's there, and so to think that when the sun comes around, or really when we come around the sun, it takes that long for us to get to us, so to think that we somehow are supposed to be able to go faster than that, right, Faster than the light switch, Faster than the light coming from the sun, it's kind of crazy, you know.
Speaker 1:It is. But I guess what makes you I know I just kind of argued in this favor too, don't get me wrong, but what is it about that makes you think this is impossible? Because, first of all, there's a little thing called mission impossible, that nothing is impossible, right, uh-huh. Second of all, we already are like doing impossible things. Right, we are splitting atoms by colliding them together. You know, we've done nuclear fusion and fission, yep, and we're studying the quantum level at a rate never before seen, right, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's true. And again, an AI just recently was able to map every single protein ever known, essentially that we could ever know, was able to tell the composition structure of each and every protein ever. Wow, yeah, so you know, amazing thing, something that, a task that we thought we'd never be able to do, but we-.
Speaker 1:So AIs are making all kinds of gains. Man, I know, I know. Those are different kinds of things my bad.
Speaker 2:So you're right I mean, who knows right? But there are some good observations that, at least with our current knowledge of how the universe works and how you know, everything is where it doesn't make much sense. So you know I can, I'll go over that and I'll also go over like the theoretical way of how we could go about going faster than light.
Speaker 1:Okay, because, yeah, I wanna hear what then makes you think that it wouldn't be possible. You know what I?
Speaker 2:mean, yeah, so, okay. So I guess I'll first start with, just like, the possibility of if we could right, how would we right? So there is one of the leading theories of how we would go faster than the speed of light. Is called I'm gonna butcher this man's name, but let me see what I can do here Okay, it's Alcubierre, it's A-L-C-U-B-I-E-R-R-E.
Speaker 2:So there was a physicist named Michael Alcubierre or something like that. I may be pronouncing his name wrong and I do apologize, but he took Einstein's theory of relativity and through it he was able to figure out a possibility of how to move faster than the speed of light. Right, Because we know that through Einstein's theory that nothing can go faster than the speed of light. So what his equation does is essentially makes it to where you would theoretically create a bubble right Of space-time. So then that way for those inside the bubble you would be, everything would be normal, right, you'd be standing still, you wouldn't notice time passing or anything like that.
Speaker 2:But around the bubble is space. So it's like you're being pulled, or I should say be squeezed through space. Right, so in space can move as fast as it wants. Right, space expands faster than the speed of light. So essentially, you would use that process, that property, so you would look like an egg being in an egg right, and you're just getting squeezed through space to get to wherever your destination is right. Same thing would go with like if you were to do something similar to like FTL travel or something FTL is just short for faster than light.
Speaker 2:But anyway, he proposed being able to create this bubble of space around us and that would propel us to wherever we needed to go or whatever like that, and that would theoretically make us go faster than the speed of light. So it's like you know, it's in theory. It sounds amazing and it works within the equation, but the problem is well, there's several problems, but one of the biggest ones is that multiple physicists have said that essentially, some of the effects that are actually happening inside of the bubble are just too problematic. Essentially, you would just die. Also, it would be.
Speaker 1:Like how.
Speaker 2:There's something called Hawking radiation, where it would essentially cause the inside of the bubble to like, heat up to an extreme amount, and then you would just die as well as probably collapse the bubble in and on itself, because as you're being squeezed through the space time, essentially that radiation is gathering around the bubble and then eventually seeping inside, and then you know stuff like that.
Speaker 2:But the other thing about this, right.
Speaker 2:So there's tons of problems with what I think has been deemed the Alcubierre drive, right, and of course these are all theories, right, because we it's just working with equations or whatever like that.
Speaker 2:But one of the other issues with it is the amount of mass, the amount of energy that would be required to create something like this. Right, because really the whole concept of this is also going with in line of, like, how space gets distorted around very dense and massive objects like our sun. Right, it creates a bend in space time because of how massive it is. And so you know, we're doing this warp bubble in a I'm gonna call it like a warp bubble or whatever like that, but we're doing this in an effort to do something like that. So you would need a huge amount of energy. I think the first estimates of how much energy that it would require to even just create something similar to this would be like the amount of energy that exists in the entire universe, or more than the amount of energy that exists in the entire universe. So you know, just an infinite amount of energy, essentially, which one?
Speaker 2:cool thing you know, just to showing how much progress that we're making and as well as how much, how much, we are really pushing ourselves. You know, going back to your thought process of nothing's in place, going back to your thought process of nothing's impossible, it's just, you know, we just need to work at it long enough. But another physicist theorized that by just redoing the math and the equation said well, you know what, maybe we can achieve something like this with a solar system's worth of energy. You know, still an incredible amount of energy. But we lowered it quite a bit. So you know, there's always that thought process of maybe we can even lower those demands even more.
Speaker 1:But it's just how would you acquire all that you know?
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, I mean you would have to have. You know that goes to. I forgot, I think it's like I think you have big extension cord with a multi socket, Exactly you know Gotta get on though All those renewables bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all eight planets bro.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know, something like a Dyson sphere might be something cool that would work, right? Yeah, a Dyson sphere for those of you who don't know, it's not a big giant, you know it's not the Dyson vacuum, you know that you have around that with the big ball and stuff, but it's a theoretical way of harnessing the sun's energy where it would essentially be a large. You would create a large structure, right? Well, in this thought process, we'll use solar panels, right, but you encapsulate the sun in this gigantic structure of solar panels to where they're capturing every single ounce of the sun's energy, and then you would, you know, of course, use that energy to do whatever you need To. Use that energy to do whatever you need to, right? So that would be a thought process, right? That's also what I think that's technically considered a.
Speaker 2:There's a I forgot what the term is but there's different tiers of like civilizations. Essentially, it was one scientist's thought process of different achievements that you know highly advanced civilizations could do, right? So there'd be like tier one, right? So that would be a civilization that is able to harness the entire planet that they're on, like every single resource, every single piece of energy, all of that right, fully harness that. We're not even at that scale, right, and then I think a tier two would be able to harness Essentially some of the other planets resources and energy and stuff like that. Then a Tier 3 civilization would be able to harness the sun, essentially that solar systems energy which would encapsulate the sun itself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Anyway, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, just to give y'all some more context. Actually I did want to let you know. I found out you were really close dude, it's Alcubierre, Alcubierre.
Speaker 2:Oh God, thank you. I was trying, man, I'd be like Alcubierre.
Speaker 1:Hey, hey. But yeah, one thing that I found interesting, which I don't know lost my place, but you know, it's interesting that he proposed this in 94. It's like Star Trek already happened and the Star Trek, the next generation, happened, the first three Star Wars happened. They're like let's go to hyperdrive, right, but then this dude's like you know what. I bet we could do something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, I mean, he actually got his inspiration from it. He said how could it be possible, how could we scientifically do what Star Trek is doing?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's going to help to create the future. Well, one thing based off what you were telling me, just to put it in a popular culture kind of way is I did picture a hyperdrive right From Star Wars, because one thing that always confused me about hyperdrive right, is they just hit it and then it's like this All the stars turn to beams, right, but it's not like they're going any faster, but also they are, you know, more or less. You see, like when they cut back to a ship in the hyperdrive, it's just all this stuff whirling around them, right, and then when it shuts off there in that next place, you know, I know that science fiction shows and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, okay, so this one was right, right, right, right. So this says objects cannot accelerate to the speed of light with normal spacetime. Instead, the Alky, a Cubiary drive, shifts space around an object so that the object would arrive at its destination more quickly than light would in normal space without breaking any physical loss. It's just so wild that it doesn't Dang.
Speaker 1:Where'd that other? I read this other thing. It said I don't know where that went. Sorry, chat, but I do want to say though I found this really interesting as well. So although Alky, the area metric, is consistent with Einstein's equations, right General relativity does not incorporate quantum mechanics, this says. Some physicists have presented arguments to suggest that theory of quantum gravity, which could incorporate both theories of relative EM, quantum physics, right Would eliminate those solutions in general relativity that allow for backward time travel and thus make the Alky, the area drive invalid. So they're saying this kind of science, if it were ever able to be implemented, right would actually cause the reverse time travel rather than travel through space.
Speaker 2:Well, no, you could do both, because if you're going faster, you can do either you can choose either or because the thought process is, if you're bending spacetime around you, you could go in either direction. That you need to Because you're going faster than light, but we also know that if you're going faster than light, you get weird time dilations that pop up, and so that is a possibility of you being able to go forward as well as backward in time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, gotcha. Yeah, I think you just find that interesting, because I think quantum mechanics do open a lot of possibilities, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:It does.
Speaker 1:But yeah, like it says here, posing a method for changing the geometry of space by creating a wave that would cause the fabric of space ahead of spacecraft to contract and space behind to expand. That's just so insane, dude.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, yeah, you're getting squeezed through space.
Speaker 1:Yeah, to me I feel like that'd have to be some quantum engine, right? Mm-hmm, that probably starts in the 24th century, like Star Trek, the next generation, yeah, you know, though I mean, that's got to be something to do with that, because the amount of right now, the amount of power that that would draw, you know, and the lack of us being able to have that, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We don't understand enough about quantum mechanics yet. I mean, we don't even understand a fraction of quantum mechanics. Dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1:We really could. Okay, I'll say this right Mm-hmm, we could travel. I bet we can travel through time. Okay, assuming that traveling faster than the speed of light ever becomes a possibility, I believe I assume that we could travel through time before we could travel beyond the speed of light. That, oddly, seems more attainable for me. I don't think so From a power perspective.
Speaker 2:From a power perspective. How? Because the only way for you to be able to travel back in time, you would need some of the same power requirements, as you would need to travel faster than light. So I need the power to focus on this thing.
Speaker 1:Yes, I don't have that. Evergy doesn't have that option. Man, it's crazy. I just want you know that there's this guy right that is making all these predictions. He's kind of like popular in sub pop culture. He says he's from the future and then he knows what will happen. He's just trying to warn us. You know, mm hmm Light, let me read some of these. We'll find it. Guy from the future predictions. First and from future predicts. Yeah, this is the dude. This guy's from 2671, bro 2671.
Speaker 2:Wow, he's out there, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't know if he got this one wrong or not, but supposedly on March 23rd, 8000 people were selected by aliens to save the earth. Shout out to the aliens for watching out for us. He always come through. Mm. Hmm, I really appreciate you. I don't know where the rest is. This way literally just disappeared because this station wants to have ads Gross. Yeah, I don't know what's happened with that. So, yeah, maybe you already feel when I went here, we go May 15th. Is this all 2023? So not only of 750 feet in height would hit San Francisco In 18, 7 people will drop from the sky at once. We don't know. That didn't happen.
Speaker 2:I mean, I guess, technically sure.
Speaker 1:August 18, scientists will find a remedy for skin cancer. Kind of true. I think we have a meloma vaccine pending.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I feel like that was already a discovery, that already happened.
Speaker 1:Maybe he just got his calendar wrong. Maybe they use a different calendar in 2672. Did you ever?
Speaker 2:read that yeah, no, you're right, you're right, man, my bad.
Speaker 1:December 3rd, a crystal will be found which will cure many diseases.
Speaker 2:Uh oh, he's talking about crystals. Wow, are you crystal girlies out here With your rocks around your neck? You know, hey, this man's speaking your language, he's got you.
Speaker 1:Are you crystal girlies in the chat? We don't mean to offend you.
Speaker 2:No, not at all.
Speaker 1:You're valued part of our fan base. And then, lastly, december 29th, new organs will start growing through stem cells. Haven't we already done that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we've already started that process.
Speaker 1:No, back to the future, where you came from.
Speaker 2:I know, I know and you know, if we're going to go on laws of causality or whatever, we would think that him making these predictions have a possibility of actually changing the course of history, which would also make things wrong. But hey, who knows.
Speaker 1:Well, that just means we're on a different timeline now?
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, we're a whole different timeline.
Speaker 1:Like the Avengers, bro. They're on a different timeline now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, you're right, man Loki came from a different timeline bro.
Speaker 1:He is himself on a different timeline, but not by himself fault. You're right, it's really Tony Stark's fault. But anyway, we don't need to get into that right now. Discussion for a different day. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it's I guess yeah, just a little, but I guess I'll go over really quickly like a paradox.
Speaker 2:I think one of the bigger paradoxes that kind of pop up with faster than light travel that I think a lot of people don't think of and something that I never thought of and kind of what you know some other stuff that we have to think about but one of the bigger ones I was actually trying to explain to John earlier before we started, which was so if you are going faster than light and our universe runs in a causality type of deal, right, so A plus B equals C, right, that's how cause and effect works in our universe, right, because we understand it currently.
Speaker 2:So one of the issues that comes with faster than light travel is that there is a possibility of you breaking that causality rule, right, because, for instance, if we do a graph, right, we'll do a graph to make it a little bit easy, right? This is I'm going to see if I can try to do this. It'll be a little weird, but all right, here we go. We're going to use this phone because it's nice and straight for us. So this is, you know, existence or whatever like that, or plane of causality right and say this point right, here is Earth right. We'll just say, actually we're going to put you in the middle. I'm trying to do this, so that way it's nice, this is good work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, okay. So this is us right, and say, just remember, it's right here, I'm kind of having to, you know, I only have a few hands. We'll say, over here, right is. We'll just say explosion of some sort, right. And then so we've got explosion, right, we've got Earth and we've got let's see, okay, we'll use this other phone here. We've got at the top of this like a space station, right, sure.
Speaker 2:So I'm explaining this how I understood it and how it was explained by in some of the few videos that I watched that were talking about this. But anyway, top of this is a space station. So we've got this nice linear line that's going right, it's going upwards. So, for instance, right, a big explosion happens, right. So we'll say, like it's, a supernova happens right over here. The law of causality happens right, and this is also speeding or going in the speed of light. So explosion happens. It gets to us, which is Earth, right here. Right, we're chilling. We're like, oh, hey, look at that Cool. Oh, explosion, right, explosion is going to say space station.
Speaker 2:Like I said, up here it's going to hit, the explosion is going to impact our space station up here, right, yep, so that's problematic, right. We're going to like oh man, that's bad, right. So us as Earth says like, wait, gotta move, right. Us, as Earth says like yo, we can't let that happen. So let's go ahead and send off a message to our space station. Who's over here, right? Different point in space, different point in and stuff. So we're going to send off a transmission to them and say like, hey, we got something bad happening, right, hey, yo, come on now. Camera, I need you to zoom out for me, thank you. So we're sending out something right here. Camera's really having a hard time. Yeah, anyway, you know. You know we're sending out something over here and saying, hey, we're sorry, us here sending information to here, sorry, it's weird. Probably should write this down, but it is what it is.
Speaker 1:Anyway, it would be nice if we could draw on the screen. That'd be really.
Speaker 2:I know, I know it would be pretty dope, but anyway. So we have that going right. We have our linear line going and gosh darn, it's harder because I'm trying to do this backwards because of the way that, yeah, anyway, linear line, ish. This way. There we go, linear line going earth here, explosion here, space station here. We send a communication to the space station and say, hey, you better move because you're about to get exploded. And so our explosion or our timeline goes, like I said supernova or explosion happens or whatever like that. We notify the station, station gets the information and makes their course correction or whatever like that, and dodges the explosion and then the explosion actually gets to the space station. Right, that's how that works. Right, because we're using, we'll say, faster than like travel communication, so that way it's getting there as fast as possible. So if we're looking at causality, that all makes sense, right, with our regular faster than like travel communication, all sorts of other stuff.
Speaker 2:Where wrenches pop up is when we have different variables in this same scenario. So our timeline still is supernova happens, earth checks out that supernova and then says and then we also have the point of when the actual space station itself sees the supernova happen or is about to get hit or whatever, right? What throws the wrench in the scenario is if we throw a little bit of a ship in between there. Right, a little, a little ship that's going not faster than like slower than than the speed of light there. Now I'm going to have to try to add them to our little graph, right? So let's see, we got supernova, we got earth and we're going to say in between there and between there, disregard the size, this is our spaceship, right, spaceship here right in the middle or right in the in between earth and space station, right? So now what's going to happen is we're going to have explosion happens, we're going to have earth seeing the explosion, earth relaying that information to the space station.
Speaker 2:But technically, as it goes through and our line of causation or whatever like that, it's going to hit the slower than light ship first. It's going to hit them first, or I should really say it's going to the communication, is going to technically get to them first before it gets to the space station, right? So if the space, if the ship says, well, they're going slower than the speed of light, so in their eyes it's going to be everything is going to look normal on their side if they don't say anything, and what I mean by that is if they don't intercept that communication and say like well, things are good, here you go, because in their line of causation, right and how they're seeing stuff. They're going to see the supernova, but then they're also going to see that the space station moved so that it so that the blast didn't hit the space station, right. Yeah, so, but in that weird in between time, since they're going slower than the speed of light, the communication I'm trying to remember this properly. So I'm trying to make sure that I got it Essentially in that in that time frame when the communication is actually getting to, essentially in the time frame in which the ship is in, they see, or they see the effects of what Earth did before Earth actually sent the message.
Speaker 2:That makes any sense. Yeah, yeah, I get it. The problem comes is if the shuttle says, hey, don't send this message because they've already moved or something like that. There's no point in you sending this message. They're not in the way because they don't see it this way, and they send that back to Earth. What Earth gets before they get a chance to see the or they see the supernova, they get a message from this ship that says they've already moved, don't send any messages. And then you have your line of causation where essentially there's still technically, there's this weird process of somehow the space station or sorry.
Speaker 2:The paradox comes in is how is it that the space shuttle has already seen this before Earth has sent out the message? Right? If Earth hasn't sent out the message, then there's no way for them to actually see the ship moving out of the way of this explosion, right? And so then that whole thing breaks, because now that makes no sense. So that's where our paradox comes in. It becomes essentially that grandfather paradox that we all know about. Right, if someone goes back in time to kill their grandfather, but they can't do that, because if they kill their grandfather then they won't exist, because they won't exist to go back in time to kill their grandfather right, They'll be like I'm back in the future, like I'm disappearing.
Speaker 2:Exactly, oops.
Speaker 1:Man, hopefully I'll love the grandfathers out there. Hopefully y'all are getting a lot of fun, yeah, I wanted to point out too, one other thing I found. I actually asked my trusted friend. Actually top five, of course Madison's number one, but coming in at number four, maybe even number three, is chat GBT.
Speaker 2:Always there for you.
Speaker 1:Always there for you, man. I answer questions every time I asked is it possible to travel faster than speed of light? If not, why? Now, as you mentioned, there's Einstein's theory of special relativity Talked about that Causality, which is just what you talked about, right? And then tachyons, I think, is how you pronounce this, but these are only hypothetical particles that are imagined to always travel faster than light. They've never been observed and many physicists believe they don't exist. So how do you even come up with them, dog? So then you got warp drives and wormholes, but in these concepts, space itself has manipulated, either being compressed in front of spacecraft and expanding behind it, in the case of a warp drive, or by connecting two distant points with a shortcut, in the case of a wormhole. All these ideas are fascinating solutions and are solutions to the equations of general relativity. They come with their own set problems. For instance, a warp drive might require negative energy and exotic matter.
Speaker 2:Neither would have been conclusively shown to exist.
Speaker 1:Oh really, you could just go on, and you could go on down to jaguars if you need some exotic matter bro, I'll teach you some exotic matter there. Oh man, that's a deep inside joke for dancing guys.
Speaker 2:It really is.
Speaker 1:It's dancing. I'm sorry I brought you all into that chat, but the last thing about this was quantum entanglement, which I originally thought was just the thing that let Hope's mom talk through Ant-Man in the first or second Ant-Man movie. Apparently not, so. Quantum entanglement actually shoots a hole in the whole idea I have of quantum space. Using that right, of course, we could still find a loophole through quantum entanglement, but we know so little about it Right now.
Speaker 1:I'm going to have to say this would be a reason that the quantum space would not allow us to travel faster and speed time. Here's why it says two particles in quantum entanglement two particles sorry, I can't talk become connected in such a way that the state of one instantaneously influences the state of the other, regardless of distance. However, this doesn't involve the transfer of information or matter faster and light, so it doesn't violate relative. So some big brain stuff I'm going to ask it to. I'm going to say this let's revisit this one right. Explain number five like I'm in high school. Are you all ready for this? What's this kind of plan?
Speaker 1:I didn't expect this Imagine you and your best friend each have a pair of dice. But these are ordinary dice. They're magic dice. No matter how far apart you two are, every time you both roll your dice at the same time they will always show the same number. So if your role for your friends dice will also show up for instantly, even if they're on the other side of the world. This is like. This is kind of like the quantum entanglement in the world of tiny particles.
Speaker 1:Sometimes two particles can become entangled. This means the state or condition one particles directly related to the state of the other, no matter how far apart they are. That's amazing. But here's the catch Even though the particles are connected in this mysterious way, you can't use this connection to send messages or information faster and light. So if you tried to use your magic dice to send secret codes to your friend, it wouldn't work because you can't control what number of your role. It's random In the real world of science if the particles aren't dice and we don't fully understand why or how entanglement works the way it does, but one thing we know is that it doesn't allow for faster and light communication. How about that? That was a good explanation, so I know what, if that's what's happening in the Marvels, bro, the quantum entangled yeah, because that's what would happen on large scale is that if, say, a thing traveled through quantum physics, it could become quantum entangled with those atoms, so it could just shift randomly. Is that correct?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, it's technically like the thing about the quantum verse that's interesting is that it changes as you observe it, so it can be in a different state until you observe it. That's the whole Schrodinger's cat thingy, where it's technically in all states at the same time until you observe it. So it's both dead and alive until you observe it, and that's yeah, so Schrodinger's cat is just. This was a theory, he just didn't have to make it. But essentially you put a cat in the box and closed it and, depending on when that cat is in that box, there is no way to tell if that cat is alive or dead, because technically, in quantum wise, it would be in a double state. So it'd be both alive and dead until you observe. The moment that you observe it, you can say, oh, no, that cat's still alive, or no, no, that cat died. So it's like that. So yes, in some ways it could be similar. You're right. The moment that you observe them they could swap places, or something like that.
Speaker 1:Sounds like a very caticlysmic idea. So, yeah, I think we really broke this down. I think we had a good job, good discussion on this. I really appreciate you, you know, especially with the causality discussion. You did a good job of explaining that and I know that was difficult.
Speaker 2:So try my best. It's hard without nice visuals, you know.
Speaker 1:I know, but you did your best. Dude. Ipod, yeah, ipod.
Speaker 2:You iPod.
Speaker 1:Ear buzz holder, bro. I don't even know what the last thing was, but yeah, worked out. So all right, guys. Well, thank you for jumping on, thank you for streaming with us this fine Thursday night. Yeah, remember to like and review wherever you're listening, wherever you're watching, watching, and check out our shop. Wherever you're watching or listening, bro Guys, you can check out our good, clean merchant Boy do. We have a lot of it. So, thank you so much for listening. Thank you for watching. I'll catch up with you next week.
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